Estimating the Unknown
I get asked to come up with my estimates for printing costs for various projects almost every day. When the music is already written and finished, all I need are the pdfs and the printing requirements and I can give an accurate cost estimate. Thanks to our published price list on our print shop page, you can pretty easily get an idea of the cost of your print project; find your preferred page size, total up the number of pages you intend to print, multiple that by the per page price and you got yourself an accurate and predictable way to estimate the costs of your project. That being said, it’s still best to contact Engraver’s Mark Music directly to confirm the costs and go over any other options you may have as those can affect the printing cost.
There are also many projects where a client will ask for me for a printing estimate when the music still hasn’t been written yet. As impossible as this task may seem (how can you possibly estimate a cost for something that doesn’t exist yet?), there are some formulas that Engraver’s Mark Music has developed that can give you an estimate that can be used for budgeting proposes AND will be fairly close to a final cost after the project is completed. How is this possible? Does Engraver’s Mark Music use some sort of time machine or other occult method to know the future? Well…. no. Thanks to years of experience with a wide variety of musical projects, Engraver’s Mark Music has found patterns and standards that allow us to provide a basis for printing costs that our clients can use as they begin the initial planning for their project costs.
So, here’s the formula we use:
Minutes of music (total) x estimated pages per minute (depends on the instrumental section in question) x number of stands (i.e., copies of a part or number or stands used in a section) =
estimated printing cost
It sounds complicated, but let me walk you through an example:
Recording session for woodwinds, brass and strings.
Orchestra size =
Woodwinds (Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon) (only 1 each)
Brass – 6 Horns, 3 Trumpets, 4 Trombones, 1 Tuba
Strings – 12/10/8/6/4 (22 Violins total, 8 Viola, 6 Cello, 4 Basses)
Total number of minutes to record = 30min (no overdubs or 2nd passes in this example to make things a bit simpler).
Now that we have this information, let’s use these figures to estimate the number of pages per minute for each orchestral section:
Woodwinds = 1.25 minutes of music per page
Brass = 1 minute of music per page
Strings = 1.5 minutes of music per page
Woodwinds and brass all have single stands, meaning each player has their own stand. String players typically share a stand (though not the basses if possible) (COVID notwithstanding). So that makes 18 single stands for the woodwind and brass and 22 total stands for strings.
And now the mathematical fun begins:
Woodwinds = 30min of music x 1.25 pages per minute x 4 stands = 150 pages of music
Brass = 30min of music x 1 page per minute of music x 14 stands = 420 pages of music
Strings = 30min of music x 1.5 pages per minute x 22 stands =
990 pages of music
Next, let’s say we’re using a 9x12 page size for parts.
1,560 pages total x using our per page price of $.37 per page for printing and taping for 9x12 = $577.20 total.
For scores, we use an estimate of 6 pages per minute of music.
Using this example, 30min of music x 6 pages per minute = 180 pages of scores
180 pages total x using our per page price of $.58 per page for printing and taping for 11x17 = $104.40 total (for 1 copy of the score).
This project requires 3 scores (1 conductor set and 2 scorebooks) = $104.40 x 3 = $313.20 total
Combined, the complete score of printing all scores and parts for this project = $890.40
Whew, we made it! These types of equations are pretty easily put into a spreadsheet and then all you have to do is plug in the different variables for minutes of music and the orchestra size and then you can get a customized estimate for just about any size project.
This example doesn’t include things like overdubs or 2nd passes for different parts in the orchestra, so the final result may vary. I would also say, the figures I used to estimate the minutes of music per page for each instrumental section tend to run a bit on the high side so in the end, this formula will more than likely give you an estimated printing cost that is MORE than what the final cost will end up being. It’s always better to estimate a bit high then low (ask anyone who ever did a flooring job and ordered too little flooring).
Well, now you know a few tricks to help estimate the printing costs for a project that hasn’t even been written yet. And, using this kind of formula, you can make adjustments based on the particular project. For example, if this is an animated movie, you could assume a higher page per minute value for each section of the orchestra as those types of scores tend to have more complicated music than a romantic comedy, which might be mainly underscore with no action cues therefore uses less pages per minute of music.
As always, if you have any questions or ideas that you need help with, please contact Engraver’s Mark Music and we can guide you through all our processes to get you the information you need to have a clearer picture of the costs of various aspects of your project.
Printers for Music Printing
When it comes to printing out sheet music, there are a lot of considerations to make. How many pages, how often, what paper sizes are you using etc. Beyond that, there are dozens of printers that may work for your needs. In this blog, I wanted to go over the important factors that determine what printer would work best for your situation and when you may want to consider upgrading your printer (or, shameless plug, use a music printer like Engraver’s Mark Music).
For the sake of simplifying my recommendations a bit, I am only going to focus on desktop laser printers. I have never found any inkjet printer that did a good job, beyond maybe just a few pages of printing here and there. To me, they cost too much and are too slow for the job.
The most important consideration in choosing a printer is the size of the paper you intend to print. Simple enough, right? Well, not exactly. Here in the US, we tend to print the vast majority of our documents on two different page sizes: 1) letter size (8.5in x 11in) and 2) legal size (8.5in x 14in). The rest of the world uses slightly different page sizes, but most have a close equivalent to these two pages sizes.
Given that letter and legal page sizes are the standard in this country, just about any printer you find at an office supply store (like Staples) or online will print these two page sizes and a fair amount of other preset page sizes that are smaller. Any laser printer you can find will do a decent job printing these page sizes and most will give you speeds up to 25-30 pages printed per minute. If this is the only page sizes you intend to print for your music, then a standard laser printer will be fine, and you should have no major issues. (more on this in a bit if you have a large printing volume)
However, if you want to go beyond the 8.5in page width, then things get a bit trickier. Since most standard laser printers can only handle page widths up to 8.5in, if you want to print page sizes like 9x12, 10x13, 11x17, etc., you must upgrade to a different level of printer. And this jump comes with a significant price increase. You can find regular laser printers by the dozens from $100-200 all day; not so with printers that can handle these larger page sizes. Most of the desktop printers (and I use the term loosely here since most of these printers weigh over 50lbs and are a good bit larger than your regular laser printer) that can handle these larger page sizes range from the cheapest I’ve found starting at around $1,200 all the way up to $3,000+. Definitely a sticker shock if you are used to purchasing a $200 or less printer every few years.
The best option (IMO) by far in this desktop printer range is the Ricoh SP 6430dn.
(Side note, I really like the previous version of this printer, Ricoh SP6330n as well if you can find one used.)
They are getting a bit harder to find, but you can usually get one for around $1,200 (last I checked). These can print up 37 pages per minute letter size (all printers are rated on their letter size page rate when it comes to speed of printing), handle page sizes up to 11x17 and has a host of other good features. I absolutely love this printer; I have 2 of them! The toner and drum cartridges have a long lifespan (usually around 10k pages or more), and the print quality is truly excellent. There are other options from HP that I know other people have used, but compared to this Ricoh, they are more than twice as expensive to purchase and way more expensive to maintain. I just do not see any advantage in the HP printers compared to this Ricoh. Ricoh makes some of the best professional, commercial, and industrial printers in the world so this unit is truly a workhorse and the quality and versatility for the price cannot be beat.
The next consideration to make in choosing a printer for your sheet music is the weight of the paper you intend to use. Again, if you plan on using standard copy paper you can buy just about anywhere (which, honestly, is crap) then just use a standard laser printer. However, you will find the quality of the paper and the quality of the printer you use will show in how your music looks on the page. Without getting into a deep dive on the crazy world of paper weights (trust me, I did and even for me, it can be boring to say the least), you should be using higher quality paper for you sheet music, especially if you plan on using it for rehearsals and performances. Standard copy paper is too thin, translucent, and just will not hold up well to repeated use. Check out the MOLA recommendations for paper weight (page 6 of this document) and you’ll see what I mean. Here are Engraver’s Mark Music, the lightest paper weight we use is 70lb text weight, which is far superior to anything you can buy off the shelf at an office supply store. Generally, you cannot find the quality of paper we use anywhere unless you work with a commercial paper supplier (like we do). If you value your music, then it should be printed on paper that reflects that. Regular printers will not hold up as well or provide as high-quality printing on thicker paper since those machines just are not built for that. Keep that in mind.
The last issue to think about is how much printing you are planning on doing. If all you plan on doing is printing out a few pages here are there for practicing charts or lead sheets, then a standard laser printer is fine. Once you start printing out larger quantities other considerations come into play. First, think if you really need to print something. There are dozens of iPad apps or other options that might work fine for you or a small ensemble. Save some trees!
If you are printing out music for a larger work for a larger ensemble, then consider how much time it will take to print all those pages and the cost in toner and other parts. The standard laser printers you can buy off the shelf do a good job printing (usually) but are slower and have a much higher cost to print each page in terms of toner costs and other parts than a more expensive printer may have. Once you start printing hundreds or even thousands of pages, the cost difference becomes noticeable. Also, most of the regular printers are designed to wear out much faster than a professional machine; you may find yourself replacing entire printers just as often as someone else with a professional machine replaces toner cartridges. Our main printer here at the shop (a Konica-Minolta commercial machine) has a monthly duty cycle (meaning what the manufacturer expects the workload to be) of over 200,000 pages per month!
These are just some things to consider as you think about printing your music. If you have any questions, please contact me and I would be happy to go over any details with you. Engraver’s Mark Music has the high-quality paper, printers and binding options (even more than what I mentioned here) that your music deserves; let us show you how the best paper, printing and binding can bring your music to a whole new level!
Do I Even Need a Copyist?
Recently, I had an interesting experience that helped remind me of the central ethos (if you will) of Engraver’s Mark Music. In an email exchange perspective client, an arranger wrote:
“Currently I use Sibelius Ultra software to create the arrangements, both octavo and full score. This also allows me to extract and edit my own parts for the bands…
in view of my Sibelius use and the clients I work with, I’m wondering what Engraver’s Mark could actually do for me.”
To which, I responded:
“I totally get what you're saying about the use of Sibelius. It's such a powerful tool. It can certainly make things easier overall, though, like most things, there's quite a bit of learning involved. My company treats Sibelius, and Finale, like instruments that need to be practiced and techniques that need to be refined.
Most of my clients use either Sibelius or Finale to write and orchestrate from the very beginning. Where my team comes into their workflow can be in a number of different places, from template design for a specific project or instrumentation, to score cleanup, part creation and editing and custom printing for recording sessions, live performances or retail sales. We know what the needs and requirements are of professional organizations and publishers so we can tailor our services to help the composers and orchestrators we with work deliver their best, on time and with less stress.
Sometimes our clients need all of these services, sometimes just a few; it depends on the project. We integrate with any workflow and help the composers and orchestrators we work with to stay focused on their art and not all the other details.”
In any business or service, there’s a point at which you have to answer this question;
“Why/How do my potential customers need/want my company’s product/service?”.
The answer to this question is the central focus of any fully developed business plan, demonstrating that the needs of your prospective client can be met by the product or service you are offering. Whether it’s a plumber or a high-tech product, the question is still the same and the thought, planning and execution of the answer can often be the difference between a successful business or one that doesn’t grow beyond a certain point.
I took this question from the arranger not as an attack on the value of my skills or the business of Engraver’s Mark Music, but as an opportunity to fully explain our business model, highlighting our skills and assets while creating an image of a new reality for the client, one where their needs could be met and new possibilities would be available to them by partnering with us.
Yes, music notation software has come a long way. These tools are extremely powerful and allow even novice user to achieve good results. However, more advanced skills and processes are needed achieve faster and more consistent results. Just as being able to install a toilet or change an electrical outlet or other more basic tasks around the house doesn’t take away the value of a fully trained and experienced plumber or electrician, the same thing goes those who use Sibelius or Finale to handle every aspect of a project themselves and those who use Engraver’s Mark Music or other music preparation services in their workflow. Each has its place and function.
So, maybe for a small ensemble or personal project where your skills are equal to the task, you may not need Engraver’s Mark Music, and that’s ok.
Maybe all you need, rather, is a teacher; one who is an expert in the area you are studying and is able to offer both knowledge and experience to help guide you on the next steps in your learning process. Engraver’s Mark Music can help you there too. We offer Finale instruction to beginners and advanced users alike to help refine and take their skills to the next level. (Contact us to learn more about Finale lessons)
Maybe you are spending too much time on score clean up or part creation and formatting that it is taking time away from the content creation you need to be doing. Or driving all over town to print shops trying to get them to understand the specific needs of musicians and hoping they’ll be able to turn your project around on time and without messing it up. In either case, know that Engraver’s Mark Music has a solution for you; one where you gain that precious time back and partner with an experienced team that knows the challenges of the deadlines and creative tasks you have in front of you.
No, not every project or person will use our service. However, Engraver’s Mark Music can create a custom solution for every project or person. That’s the focus our everything we do; to help all those we work with to stay focused on their art, not all the other details and partner with them to bring their music to the world.
Here's a link to a great interview with Christopher Willis and how the music preparation process was a large part in his workflow on "The Personal History of David Copperfield"
Hey everyone, just a quick announcement that Engraver’s Mark Music has some new printing and binding options to offer.
Sammy Sanfilippo, CEO of Engraver's Mark Music